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So what's on your mind this weekend?

New Castle County Executive Tom Gordon is catching heat for his plan to give the Wilmington Fire Department a 225-thousand-dollar grant, part of the Gordon Administration's proposed budget for 2014. Some think it would make more sense to send that money to struggling volunteer fire departments outside the city.


Police arrested a P.S. duPont Middle School student for bringing an unloaded gun to school in his backpack. Police say the boy showed other students the gun as he was walking to school. His classmates told a teacher, who, in turn, notified school administrators. Corporal Mark Ivey says the boy believed the weapon was a BB gun, and that he never threatened anyone. A secondary issue is how long it took school administrators to notify others in the district. Even by early evening, the school administration has not posted any information about the incident on the school or district's websites, although WDEL had already been airing the story for a couple of hours.


The jury in the capital murder trial of abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell entered its fourth day of deliberations Friday.


A victory south of the Mason-Dixon line for capital punishment opponents: Maryland's Democratic Governor Martin O'Malley has signed legislation repealing the death penalty. Maryland becomes the 18th state to shelve the death penalty. Such legislation is stalled here in Delaware. The death-penalty repeal does not cover the five men currently on Maryland's death row, but Maryland's governor could commute the sentences to life without possibility of parole. Governor O'Malley says he'd consider each death-row inmate on a case-by-case basis. Death penalty supporters still could launch a petitition drive to put the death-penalty repeal on the ballot for a 2014 referendum.


The WASHINGTON POST Friday carried a story headlined...
"Biden ponders a 2016 bid, but a promotion to the top job seems to be a long shot". The Veep was visiting the early primary/caucus state of South Carolina to headline a sold-out dinner for SC Democrats.


Challenges to the Obama Administration on several fronts:
United Nations experts condemned the force-feeding of hunger-striking inmates at the U.S. detention facility at Guantanamo Bay and an ex-White House lawyer claimed the administration was using drone strikes as an alternative to detaining terrorist suspects.


In a story that got minimal attention in national media, police in Virginia Beach, Virginia, arrested nearly 150 people after tens of thousands of young people turned out for an event publicized in social media. But Virginia Beach officials barely knew it was happening. Several shootings, stabbings, robberies, shoplifting; numerous incidents of public intoxication and urination. Some Virginia Beach business owners drew parallels to "GreekFest", a Labor Day party involving students from historically African-American colleges that got out of control.


The firebrand preacher dad to pop singer Katy Perry has branded his daughter a "devil child". Rev. Keith Perry has urged his congregations to "pray for Katy", whose first hit was "I Kissed a Girl & I Liked It".








Posted at 8:23am on May 3, 2013 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

EarlGrey
Fri, May 3, 2013 8:44am
Mr. Loudell..have you read this story on the UK Daily Mail? It looks like a big power struggle continues in Iran.

Was Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arrested by the Revolutionary Guard?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317844/Was-Iran-s-President-Mahmoud-Ahmadinejad-arrested-Revolutionary-Guard.html


Allan Loudell
Fri, May 3, 2013 8:46am
I have read it. Details are murky. I may seek out my professor friend who still has contacts within Iran...

Allan Loudell

kavips
Fri, May 3, 2013 8:54am
My that was interesting.

EarlGrey
Fri, May 3, 2013 9:09am
Thanks Mr. Loudell...please let us know any additional inside info.

billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 9:16am
I read a while back that the Daily Mail is most-read news site in the world. Now people here are reading it, too.

Here's my favorite today:

Today's teens are more materialistic and less interested in hard work than baby boomers were, due to the way those baby boomers raised their kids, study says...

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318717/Todays-teens-materialistic-interested-hard-work-baby-boomers-says-study.html#ixzz2SEcOyx7L

Sloth and avarice are increasing. More money; less work. Feel good about yourself. The age of the participation trophy.

The study neglects to question what the so-called "Greatest Generation" did raising Baby Boomers, in the first place.

The American Century is over. The BRIC is here. Somebody is writing "The Decline and Fall of the American Empire" already.

billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 9:27am
Speaking of bad parents...
The Daily Mail has picked up a story that's all over the TV local news.

'You deserve to rot in hell for what you have done to me': Daughter's twitter outburst about mom who has resurfaced after being missing for ELEVEN years

Brenda Heist turned herself in at a Florida police station on Friday evening after being missing for 11 years

Her daughter Morgan says she is angry about her mom's behavior and doesn't want a relationship

Brenda left her husband and two children in Lititz, Pennsylvania and moved to Florida to live as a homeless person

She told detectives she did it because she was in the middle of a divorce and was struggling financially

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318541/Brenda-Heist-Daughters-Twitter-outburst-mom-resurfaced-missing-ELEVEN-years.html#ixzz2SEfd8WHR

The daughter is a freshman at Montgomery County Community College. The son just graduated from West Chester University. The mom seems to have trouble understanding why the kids are so upset with her.

It's not uncommon for women to act selfishly, hurt others and then to expect those who have been hurt to understand. Mom just dropped them off at school one more and ran off to Florida. Her husband was for a time the prime suspect in the disappearance.




billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 10:05am
Lately, David Letterman has been doing a feature called "Stooge of the Night." He shows a picture of a senator who voted against the gun registry bill and then cites the percentage of residents in the senator's state who favor gun registration (always an overwhelming majority - often above 90 per cent). Sometimes he will mention that contribution the senator took from some gun interest, or some other embarrassing factoid (i.e., the senator said he hadn't read the bill).

It's interesting that a comedian hosting a late-night talk-variety show is presenting this, not the mainstream news media. It does explain why late-night shows do more to influence voting decisions than news programs.

billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 10:17am
Most of the US media have not been saying much about the devastating fire and collapse of a garment factory in Bangladesh. People working long hours, for little pay and in unsafe conditions. So Americans can buy "fashionable" clothing cheap. Estimates say close to 400 people died. Far more than Boston or West, Texas. But these were foreigners and people don't think about where their clothes come from.

For the record, things like this used to happen here. Then we got labor unions, health and safety rules and all the other red tape Republicans hate and say hurt job growth.

Allan Loudell
Fri, May 3, 2013 10:51am
Mr. Smith...

The Bangladesh story deserves more attention (Although, as usual, "serious" U.S. newspapers have given it more attention than broadcast media.)

And, apart from the human toll, news organizations hounded by consultants who advise against doing international stories from halfway around the world would have a "peg", as you suggest -- that the clothing sold in the big U.S. retail stores originates in countries such as Bangladesh, indeed, may have originated in this very factory! In theory, that should make this story relevant.

I have done three live interviews and two "Loudell Reports" about this story, particularly the U.S. clothing dimension.

Even asked whether such horrors could produce an international campaign to press big companies to monitor conditions - or risk a boycott - the way we had the international boycott against Nestle' for its infant "milk" formula some years ago...

Allan Loudell






billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 11:40am
Allan Loudell: I've seen you blame "consultants" for acknowledged media short-comings before this. The media pay for their advice but do not have to take it. They don't have to keep hiring. The media hold final legal and moral responsibility for what they publish or do not publish.

It's also my observation that any business, in any field, which feels the need to go to outside consultants is in serious trouble with owners who don't have confidence in their own managers and managers who don't have confidence in their own competency.

Given the greater loss of life and the far greater property and economic damage, I still haven't figured out why West, Texas is considered less of a story than Boston. Here again, corporate malfeasance which puts workers at risk is categorically downplayed. One would think, given the nature of many of the industrial plants located in the Wilmington area, industrial "accidents" would be a particular concern here. But it seems people who post here would rather fear Muslims.


teatime
Fri, May 3, 2013 11:47am
The Kermit Gosnell trial is hypocrisy personified. There are thousands of other doctors snuffing out baby lives each day, but none of them are prosecuted the way Dr. Gosnell is. Let's get rid of this hypocrisy. If Gosness is wrong, then so are thousands of other doctors who should also face murder charges.



Allan Loudell
Fri, May 3, 2013 1:33pm
Bill Smith...

Fortunately, we do not feel the long arm of a consultant here at WDEL as happens at many other stations. Yes, we have someone on retainer who offers infrequent input, but that's about it. He lauds us. He's got other "fires" to deal with at other radio stations.

His advocacy of "LIVE & LOCAL" (against big corporate owned stations) only crystallized our commitment to that philosophy. Of course, many news/talk stations - owned by companies mired in debt - wouldn't even have that option!

Bluntly, in the more than a quarter of a century I've been on-the-air in Delaware, I haven't had to worry about consultants.

My experience is they tend to have far greater, unfettered impact/influence at big corporate-owned stations than smaller station groups. One reason may be the managers at many of these stations hail from sales backgrounds, and may not have an instinctive familiarity with programming matters.

I suppose some managers may enlist consultants as "protection". If ratings and/or revenue nosedive, they can blame the consultant. I'm showing my cynicism now.

From what I've read, some of the biggest innovations in radio came from brilliant entrepreneurs' minds, not consultants. For example, the late Gordon McLendon (all-news radio). He pioneered the format before then-Group W & CBS introduced the format in the biggest markets. Also, many credit him with fine-tuning Top 40 radio.

I'm afraid consultants are spot-on, however, when they identify younger demographic targets as being disinterested in global & political news.

But consultants existed four decades ago, even when most radio stations were thriving -- unlike today.

My understanding is one or two news organizations (Print) are digging into the West, Texas, story. Maybe over the coming months, we'll hear some dramatic revelations.

I talked to the Washington bureau chief of The HOUSTON CHRONICLE - Rick Dunham - about why the West, Texas, story got significantly less coverage than the Boston Marathon bombings. We pretty much agreed:

(1). Middle of the country, fewer media outlets

(2). As you yourself noted, fears of terrorism seem to trump fears of industrial accidents.

(3). The Boston Marathon bombings started with a sporting event that was already getting minute-by-minute coverage.

(4). More Boston angles, more visuals, international intrigue, and the discussion about whether the FBI had dropped the ball

(5). Boston kept producing breathless new developments for almost a week, great fodder for cable.

I wish I could track this down, but one local newspaper columnist in West or Waco - interviewed about the disaster - said something to the effect that it wasn't "their place" to raise questions about corporate irresponsibility/malfeasance. Really?

Allan Loudell


EarlGrey
Fri, May 3, 2013 1:59pm
Chris Christie prepping for 2016?... VP for Hillary?
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/hillary-clinton-chris-christie-clinton-global-initiative-90871.html

That would be a tough combo to defeat :(

Mike from Delaware
Fri, May 3, 2013 2:31pm
The latest poll says most Americans want background checks for all gun purchases.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57582435/poll-59-of-americans-unhappy-about-senate-gun-vote/

teatime
Fri, May 3, 2013 3:02pm


Pay a radio consultant $250,000 and he'll give you advice that makes the ratings go down.


billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 5:25pm
"I wish I could track this down, but one local newspaper columnist in West or Waco - interviewed about the disaster - said something to the effect that it wasn't "their place" to raise questions about corporate irresponsibility/malfeasance. Really?"

That is classic. Comparable to a few years ago when some journalist talked about avoiding unfavorable stories in order not to damage his relationship with sources.

Small town newspapers have long seen themselves as local boosters and are often notoriously compliant. Small town radio stations, too. Still, I wonder whose place this guy thinks it is.

billsmith
Fri, May 3, 2013 6:38pm
Allan Loudell: I've been meaning to mention that Encore has been running "The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp" on their Westerns channel.

billsmith
Sat, May 4, 2013 6:55am
Earl: Hillary and Christie? After dealing with Slick Willy's heart problems and weight issues, do you think she'd want to take on another guy who is a candidate for a major cardiac event.

It was bad enough having a guy with a long history of serious heart malfunctions running the country for eight years, although if Cheney had died, I suppose Bush could have taken over.

Mike from Delaware
Sat, May 4, 2013 10:25am
I don't see Christie becoming a DEM, but as one of you guys posted somewhere on Allan's blog, the Sussex County TEA folks are leaving the Del GOP to take over the Del Independent Party. That would a good thing nationally for the TEA folks to do, start their own party - the name TEA party has national name recognition. Then the GOP can be the moderate party it was and offer conservative fiscal values without the extreme stuff that the ultra right want.

That would be the DEMS worse nightmare, because now with the extreme TEA folks pretty much controlling the GOP, its easy for the DEMS to paint the GOP as a radical ultra right wing party. However, once that extreme faction is gone, the DEMS would be hard put to paint the GOP that way, but it would be easier then for the GOP to paint the DEMS that way as they also have an extreme ultra left wing branch in their party that heavily funds that party.

With the Old GOP party back minus the Christine O'Donnell's and Sarah Palin's and the other extremists, Christie, would be a great GOP candidate as he's demonstrated he can work with moderated in both GOP and DEMS.

Granted, he really needs to lose some weight [OK a lot of weight] or that probably would become an issue in that election. Obviously the choice of VP would become even more important than the norm, because whoever it is would have a pretty good chance of inheriting the job as Christie is far more prone to have a stroke or heart attack than the average President, especially if he doesn't lose some serious weight.

mrpizza
Sat, May 4, 2013 10:49am
Well, Obama finally went on his second-term apology tour - this time to Mexico. The president who hates America is once again out there spewing his usual ilk that America is the cause of all the world's problems, in this case gun violence in Mexico is our fault.

What a traitor!

mrpizza
Sat, May 4, 2013 10:53am
Allan: I lived in Virginia Beach when I was in the Navy, and met my wife of 35 years there. Back then, it was a great family resort area and relatively safe for a large metro area of half-a-dozen or so cities.

I don't think I would take my cat there for a vacation now.

billsmith
Sat, May 4, 2013 10:56am
MikeFromDelaware: Christie doesn't need to become (as you put it) a "DEM." Hillary was never exactly a progressive. She and Bill were "Blue Dog" Southern, "New Democrat" or moderate Democrats. Christie presents himself as a "moderate" Republican. So, the two of them can present themselves as being above all the party gridlock and rancor, willing and able to work together and get things done for the good of the country. (Jeez, I can almost hear the commercials.) Which is what most people (everybody but the tea party, the NRA and the religious right) say they want. Besides, I doubt any Republican will offer the job to Christie.

billsmith
Sat, May 4, 2013 11:00am
Traitor? Remember your meds, pizza.

The US isn't the cause of all the world's problems. Just most of them. And the cause of most of the US' problems is people who think, or talk, like you do.

In addition to mental health checks for gun purchases, maybe we need them for voter registration.


EarlGrey
Sat, May 4, 2013 11:05pm
Mrpizza: The president was correct in his claim that gun violence (hundreds killed by narco-terrorists) in Mexico can be blamed on Americans... He just failed to mention he & his administration are the Americans that supplied these weapons via Operation Fast & Furious.

EarlGrey
Sat, May 4, 2013 11:16pm
Planned Parenthood of Delaware has put a hold on all surgical abortions due to the Gosnell case connection and several 911 emergency calls from the clinics.

According to LifeNews, the Planned Parenthood clinic in Dover has suspended surgical abortions, and the Wilmington affiliate has closed entirely for administrative functions.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/03/Delaware-First-State-Since-Roe-v-Wade-With-No-Surgical-Abortions

billsmith
Sun, May 5, 2013 3:38am
Earl: Breitbart? Are you serious? Besides, he's dead.

billsmith
Sun, May 5, 2013 4:38am
The real reason Jesus Jumpers are so paranoid and think everybody is always picking on them...

From today's Daily Mail:

"Historian risks being thrown to the lions for book which claims Christian martyrdom is made up and modern believers have a persecution complex

A historian has sparked controversy by penning a thesis saying stories of Christian martyrdom were mostly make-believe and modern worshipers too easily claim they are being victimized as a result.

Candida Moss, a professor of New Testament and Early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame, has poured doubt on the idea that many early Christians died for their faith at the hands of the Roman Empire.

She claims many stories were invented or exaggerated to further the religion and Christianity is so laden with such tales that it has given rise to a myth of persecution among modern believers.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2319577/Historian-risks-thrown-lions-book-claims-Christian-martyrdom-modern-believers-persecution-complex.html#ixzz2SPBlLsrv

Just shows how gullible Bible Bangers are; they will believe anything. And, boy, do they get angry when they are proven wrong. If Moss has tenure, Notre Dame can't fire her but I bet those papists which they could get away with burning her at the stake like they did in the good old days.

Read the book:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Myth-Persecution-Christians-Martyrdom/dp/0062104527/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367743022&sr=8-1&keywords=the+myth+of+persecution

EarlGrey
Sun, May 5, 2013 3:16pm
bill: thanks for the crude update on Mr. Breitbart...you do realize the man started a wave of real journalists...btw only last week the NYT conceded he was correct about Pigford. What? You don't know or care about Pigford because a "rightie" reported on it..what about when "lefties" do?

Just because Breitbart reports it doesn't mean it's not true...just as Pigford story was true so too is the Planned Parenthood story.

EarlGrey
Sun, May 5, 2013 3:20pm
Happy Cinco de Mayo everybody!

billsmith
Sun, May 5, 2013 7:04pm
Earl: Apparently, your definition of "real journalist" is anybody who tells it the way you want to hear it. Whatever Breitbart was, he did not start a wave of anything. Drudge and Huffington were doing it before him and Breitbart started out working for them.

Breitbart was a polemicist. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just because he says it doesn't mean it's true either. The guy had an ax to grind. His agenda drives his speculation. You assume that if the Times doesn't pick it up right away, it's because of the TIMES' "liberal bias." Maybe it's because the TIMES wants to be sure of its facts first. Even so, if you don't want to hear it, a news source must be biased. You all twist things to fit how you want things to be, so it's not surprising you all assume everybody else does the same.

What Planned Parenthood story are you talking about?


Mike from Delaware
Sun, May 5, 2013 10:09pm
Here is an interesting commentary asking the question of why should the US get into the Syrian conflict.

http://www.humanevents.com/2013/04/30/buchanan-their-war-not-ours/

Mike from Delaware
Sun, May 5, 2013 10:16pm
Billsmith: An atheist friend of my posted that on FB. Roman historians did mention Nero and what he did to Christians, so that one is historically accurate.

My friend also asked for info to show that Christians are actually being persecuted today.

Here are some links to prove that many Christians are being persecuted for their faith today in the 21st Century:

http://csi-usa.org/persecution.html?gclid=CJP0ueqkgLcCFQYw4AodySwAgA


http://www.medicalambassadors.org/nigeria.html


http://www.persecutionpodcast.com/

Mike from Delaware
Sun, May 5, 2013 11:17pm
According to this article, we are awash in petrochemicals - oil all because of new technology. Enjoy.

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-science/20130504/US--Energy-Technology-Race-ABRIDGED/

kavips
Sun, May 5, 2013 11:33pm
I've been on here too long... yesterday an Eastern Tiger Swallowtail fluttered across the parking lot in front of me, and my first thought was oh wow, I have to tell Allan. Go figure.

Which brings up something you might know. There is no way that adult could have hatched and grown with this chilly winter. Do adults hibernate? Any record?

billsmith
Mon, May 6, 2013 5:46am
MikeFromDelaware: Bull! Christians are the only group who persecute people for "theological incorrectness." Rome was a polytheistic society; there was always room for another deity. Romans were notorious for bringing back religions from the provinces.

The article points out that Christians ran afoul of the authorities for various reasons but they were not singled out for being Christian. The myth of persecution was invented centuries later, when Christians were the established religion of the empire and were persecuting religious minorities.

I will leave it to the shrinks to figure out why Christians feel the need to feel persecuted, when you all are the ones with a history of persecuting others (including, of course, other Christians).

When Christians are punished for their actions, they like to claim it's for their beliefs - ignoring the fact that Christians are the only cult which feels threatened to be around anyone who thinks differently than they do. This one is classic dissonance reduction strategy: Christianity requires faith. If there is not complete agreement from everyone, that creates doubt. Doubt cannot be allowed. Call the Inquisition. Or at least, pressure people into participating in public prayers.

Nobody persecutes Christians. People don't like you all that much either but that has nothing to do with any belief system.

Talk about having blinders on.

Mike from Delaware
Mon, May 6, 2013 8:05am
Billsmith: Well, so much for having an intelligent discussion. Why must you demonstrate what most of us here know from experience? Liberals are only tolerant of a viewpoint when it matches theirs.

Believe what you want. Everyone in entitled to his/her beliefs, so I respect your right to be so wrong.

kavips
Mon, May 6, 2013 9:19am
I will have to see more than one concurrent article before being convinced against a life time of learning that Rome did not persecute Christians for being Christian.

That statement goes against almost 2000 years of tradition, including many accounts written coincident with the times of persecution themselves...

And simply looking at how BillSmith lights into anyone espousing a Christian belief or attitude, one could make the easy leap of judgment, that out there exists a hatred of Christians, that if given unlimited power with no checks or balances, such persecution could and would occur.

billsmith
Mon, May 6, 2013 9:22am
MikeFromDelaware: We are not talking about "beliefs" - OK, you are. I am talking about data-based historical research. And if you think I'm a "liberal," then you really don't know what you're talking about.
The world is not flat.
The sun does not revolve around the Earth
The world is older than 5,5773 years.
Noah's flood did not kill dinosaurs.
The Earth's climate is getting warmer.
Human beings evolved from other species.

Intelligent people are not tolerant of myth and superstition.
PS: 75 years ago the Missouri Synod was full of Bundists. You should feel right at home, even if you aren't German.

kavips
Mon, May 6, 2013 10:17am
Yes, but one cannot equate the world being flat as on par with a statement saying "Christians are the only group who persecute people for "theological incorrectness."

I would have to say that saying something like that, actually puts you in the category of those subject to myth and superstition.

These facts come to mind and immediately refute that statement. Muslims, Soviets, Nazi's, Turks, Hutus, none of which espouse Christian beliefs and all persecuted rather violently I may add, for "theological incorrectness"....

It appears that when it comes to classifying Christians, the world is not flat after all?

Mike from Delaware
Mon, May 6, 2013 10:23am
Billsmith: When did I say the world is flat, or the sun revolves around the Earth, etc, etc?

You assume an aweful lot, just because I'm a Christian that we all have the same beliefs as those folks who were at the Scopes Monkey Trial in 1927. Many followers of Christ [including myself] read other books beside the Bible and books written by Christians. I know PhD Scientists who are Christians. I know that's shocking, but yes people with intellect CAN and ARE Followers of Jesus Christ.

I'm learning more about the LCMS church, some things I'm not crazy about, you're saying back in the 30's and 40's many LCMS Lutherans were Nazi's? Do you have a link to support that, because LCMS is only in the US, meaning that a bunch of German Lutherans in the US were Nazi's back then. Of did a bunch of Germans, after the war come over like Von Braun did and become LCMS folks.

EarlGrey
Mon, May 6, 2013 11:03am
What Planned Parenthood story are you talking about?

I first heard about the Planned Parenthood abortion story on WDEL, then saw it pop up a few hours later on Breitbart's Big Journalism site.

Below are two more links to the Planned Parenthood of Delaware story:

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/15/delaware-planned-parenthood-halts-abortions-while-/

http://www.udreview.com/mobile/news/wilm-abortion-clinic-temporarily-closes-due-to-ongoing-investigation-1.3038313


EarlGrey
Mon, May 6, 2013 11:27am
If intelligent people are not tolerant of myth and superstition, then these smarties need to apply some rational (non-superstitious type) thinking about the last two topics you mentioned.

"The Earth's climate is getting warmer".
Russian scientists are now predicting Global Cooling...our Earth runs in an organized cycle of change.
http://www.examiner.com/article/global-cooling-not-global-warming-looming-on-the-horizon

"Human beings evolved from other species."
Have we humans truly evolved or are we actually devolving? Each division of cells...does this make us stronger/wiser or weaker and less intellegent each time? Maybe we are headed back to monkeys rather than the other way around...hmmm. We rely so much upon technology to do our daily tasks we are becoming monkeys pushing a bunch of buttons. We have become George Jetson...I realize that reference is very old, but hey, so too am I.


billsmith
Mon, May 6, 2013 11:28am
MikeFromDelaware: Nobody was at the Scopes Trial in 1927. At the time, it had been over for two years.

Don't look at things from hingsight. In the 30s, many people in this country found much to admire in the governments of Hitler and Mussolini. Many people of German ancestry felt a tie to "the Fatherland" and joined various German pride organizations, including the German-American Bund. Many of these people also believed the media were biased against Hitler and joined the Bund to counter media bias (attributed to Jewish ownership of the media). People who admired Hitler included Charles A. Lindberg, the King of Great Britain, and many member of the Missouri Synod. Much of what the religious right and the tea party advocate today is not unlike what fascists advocated in the 30s.

Earl: Don't you ever read any credible news outlets? They've had stories on this but did not sensationalize it to your taste. Hospitals and clinics are frequently investigated and infractions are frequently found. It happens. But in this case, anti-abortion types are using hospital rules to harass abortion providers, increase their costs of operating, put some out of business, and overall, make it hard for women to obtain abortions. This is not about safe medical practice. This is about religious bullies who cannot win at the ballot box or in court trying to enforce their will on others - yet again.

EarlGrey
Mon, May 6, 2013 12:53pm
So the University of Delaware Review isn't a credible news source? Try using g00gle or Bing and find your own results on these stories...there are several other news links out there covering them.

The Planned Parenthood stories have NOTHING to do with religious anti-abortion views and everything to do with the health of women and children in these clinics.

I sure wish Pennsy still posted on this site...it would be nice to hear a woman's point-of-view on some of these topics.
Are you still out there Pennsy?...you are missed.

billsmith
Mon, May 6, 2013 1:13pm
Earl: Hospitals and clinics get inspected all the time. You only want to make a big deal of this particular inspection because Planned Parenthood does abortions (ignoring the fact that abortions are a very small part of their total practice).

Mike from Delaware
Mon, May 6, 2013 1:22pm
Billsmith: Yes 1925, not 1927; thank you for focusing on a mistake and ignore the point.

Kavips and EarlGrey: Well said.

I too wish we were hearing Pennsy's point of view.

kavips
Mon, May 6, 2013 5:23pm
On the clinics, I have to differ with BillS' interpretation of the angle it is presented. True, Breitbart is the worst of yellow journalism; it would make even Rush Limbaugh green with envy (I'm momentarily proud of that one, lol). But the truth remains that abortion clinics, whether because they were too controversial to touch, or whether no one wanted to be associated with their activities, have escaped regular inspections. If one is never inspected, as I can say from personal experience, that no matter what are the best of intentions, things do get overlooked and ignored. In other words, it always takes a different set of eyes. Everyone is human, and cannot be counted on to perform in exemplary fashion, indefinitely ...

Rick Jensen has brought up they need to be inspected, and just from a sane common-sense thoughtful approach, I would have to agree. We need to step-up inspections, and I bet if WDEL gets on it right away, they will scoop everyone else on finding that yes, abortion clinics do not receive the same thorough care as do other medical facilities.... and that shockingly, no one in our state government was even aware of the glitch.

That said, to blame something of common sense on ideology, is making the same mistake Rick Jensen does by blaming overlooking the Philadelphia disaster upon Obama's ideology. I find it rather bizarre that Bill Smith is accusing Earl Grey of bringing up the soon-to-be-WDEL- scooped abortion fiasco story because Earl Grey is flat-out against abortions, when Billsmith does exactly the same every time it augments his point of view...

We are all human. It is certainly natural that we bring up those items that have particular concern for us. Myself certainly included.

To move it along, I for one, being one who believes God specifically gave women and not government the right to fulfill his will on who is born and who is not, am grateful that Earl Grey published the links. I was shocked, and disappointed that it is happening here too, and it is not an isolated case far, far away...(lol, Philly).

Seriously. Can someone on WDEL look into this story?

billsmith
Mon, May 6, 2013 7:26pm
"Seriously. Can someone on WDEL look into this story?"

Only if someone sends out a press release or schedules some media event. Original fact gathering? Not in this century.

kavips
Tue, May 7, 2013 2:33am
Not true.. All it takes is a couple of phone calls first to planned parenthood.

Wilmington 625 Shipley St.(302) 655-7293
Newark 140 E. Delaware Ave.(302) 731-7801
Dover 805 S. Governors Avenue (302) 678-5200

Head of Senate Health and Social Services: Bethnay Hall-Long Phone: (302) 744-4286 Legislative Hall

Head of House Health and Human Development: Michael A. Barbieri Phone: (302) 744-4279 Legislative Hall

It appears the Dept of Health and Social Services is responsible.... Title 16, Chapter 1.
http://delcode.delaware.gov/title16/c001/sc02/index.shtml

Here is Delaware's Division of public Health page.
http://www.dhss.delaware.gov/dhss/dph/index.html
And the directors phone and fax...Phone (302) 744-4700
Fax (302) 739-6659

And here are the Reproductive Health units numbers... Reproductive Health Program Phone (302) 744-4552
Fax (302) 739-6653

That's a start... And if no one talks, call this guy; he's so starved for attention he'll blab about anything... :)
7Gregory F. Lavelle Phone: (302)744-4048 Fax:(302)739-5049

See billsmith? It is really not that hard...

(My guess you will find that no one knows who is even supposed to inspect these sites.My guess they will try to tuck it under "nursing services")

Here the website for the Delaware Code...
http://delcode.delaware.gov/



Mike from Delaware
Tue, May 7, 2013 8:06am
Kavips: You never know, maybe WDEL will hire you as one of its investigative reporters. Good info.

EarlGrey
Tue, May 7, 2013 9:27am
kavips: I understand your dislike of breitbart.com but could you please clarify "yellow journalism"? Breitbart's reporting definitely leans Right but to believe the other news sites aren't biased from the Left is naive.

Breitbart (rip) was recently vindicated by the New York Times (front page/top fold story on Pigford scandal)...is that yellow?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/new-york-times-andrew-breitbart-90681.html
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/043013-654139-breitbart-was-right-about-pigford-case.htm

kavips
Tue, May 7, 2013 7:22pm
Earl... I saw that link to a vindication. I'm sorry but I haven't read it yet, being unfamiliar with the original story.

The yellow reference comes from when they first burst on the scene of my universe, back when they exposed a video taken of an extremely racist government employee who then got fired on the spot while driving home.... We found out later, that Breitbart cut, spliced, and doctored that video to portray the opposite of what was said.. She was offered her job back but I think by that point, she disgustedly said no thanks.

Being my first impression of Breitbart, it is also my lasting one.

I had another experience when investigating the Bloom Energy deal, where I looked at the same report they did, and what they printed about Bloom's cost was a gross misinterpretation. They failed to factor in a positive factor which would cut the cost by half.

It appears from my perspective, having twice been tainted, that they exist not to dredge up news, but to throw dirt at the current administration. If they can't twist it to demean Obama, they don't print it...

I realize as I type this that I could be completely wrong, since I read them less than you. Just wanted to answer your question as to why...

EarlGrey
Tue, May 7, 2013 10:17pm
kavips: Thanks for the honest and well-written response as to why you feel as you do about breitbart. You might want to check out the site a bit more to get a fresh view on what it has become. Breitbart the man was far-from-perfect and had very passionate views, but I believe he was very good at getting out news no others would cover.

btw, you may find the link below interesting...
http://m.newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2012/03/01/liberal-reporters-still-wrong-about-andrew-breitbart-and-shirley-

mrpizza
Wed, May 8, 2013 12:09am
billsmith: Have you ever considered moving to North Korea?

billsmith
Sat, May 11, 2013 4:52pm
mrpizza: No. But complete authoritarian rule. Sounds more like your kind of place. Complete obedience. People spend their time praising their ruler in massive demonstrations. Sounds a lot like the Christian idea of heaven.


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