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So... which stories / issues / topics grab your attention this weekend?

As of Friday morning, looks like the 10-day-old computer model which projected a catastrophic storm for this weekend is going out with a whimper, at least for our region. Still, snow and subfreezing temperatures could still cause problems on the roads...

Speaking of road travel, a New Castle area motorist took a hit when a chunk of ice tumbled from the roof of a tractor-trailer careening down Interstate 95 onto that motorist's windshield. Windshield shattered. Fortunately, the driver wasn't hurt.

This underscores another one of my pet gripes: Before attempting to drive during or after a storm, I brush - or scrape -- all the snow from the roof, hood, and trunk of my vehicle. Lots of other drivers don't. Once again, SUVs are disproportionately the problem. As far as I'm concerned, if you can't reach to the top of your SUV to clear the snow & ice, DON'T BUY an SUV! Yes, I'm just about as negative about SUVs and other big vehicles as I am about most sports. Tractor-trailers: They're another story. Unclear what the big rig truckers can do.

Delaware has no statute on the books requiring motorists to remove snow and ice from the tops of their vehicles. New Jersey and Pennsylvania do have such laws on the books. Of course, one of the reasons it takes DelDOT so long to treat the pavement - even after the storm - is because of all that snow and ice tumbling back onto the pavement.



More than 284-thousand PECO customers in the Philadelphia region remained without power Friday morning, a couple of days after the mid-week winter storm.



State Treasurer Chip Flowers (D-DE) this week trumpeted the performance of the state's 2-Billion-dollar, cash management portfoilo. The implication: The portfolio showed impressive results under Chip Flowers' management, and is destined for rocky waters now that the state General Assembly has formally defined the Cash Management Policy Board as the only arbiter over investments decisions. That is disingenuous. Even BEFORE that ruling from Attorney General Beau Biden's office - and that action from the state legislators - Flowers was but one vote on the Cash Management Board, and a majority of the Cash Management Board was calling the shots. (Unless Flowers, somehow, moved money around against the board's direction.) But if the portfolio performed well, Flowers is, in essence, praising the very same board members with whom he has been feuding.




For a while, it seemed U.S. House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) was prepared to take on the most extreme anti-immigrant folks in his own party. No longer. Just a week after he seemed to signal House Republicans would press for immigration reform, Speaker Boehner declared the G.O.P. caucus was unlikely to proceed. "There's widespread doubt about whether this administration can be trusted to enforce our laws".

Seems like a cover story to me. Then why did Boehner even suggest possible movement a week ago? One assumes he would've thought the Obama Administration equally untrustworthy a week ago. Most likely scenario: The conservative media commentariat and Tea Party grassroots "got" to him. Irony: Even under the extremely limited immigration reforms Boehner & company floated a week ago (covered on this very "Open Friday / Weekend Forum" blog a week ago), such reforms would seemingly replicate the "Bantustan" approach of the old South African apartheid government, where "guest workers" from Transkei, Ciskei, Bophupthatswana, etc., would toil in South African mines, etc.; pay taxes; and be denied South African citizenship, because they would still technically be citizens of one of the "stans". In crass political terms, immigration reform opponents had a point. Such "reforms" were extremely unlikely to win over many Hispanic or Asian converts to the Republican Party.



U.S. Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) told C-Span's "Newsmakers" program that any Democrat who has raised campaign money with former President Clinton should send back the money to protest the ex-President's sexual hanky panky in the White House. Rand Paul argues Democrats show great hypocrisy when they castigate Republicans for waging a war on women, while simultaneously, embracing former President Clinton. (Rand Paul recently called the ex-President a "sexual predator" for having a physical relationship with Monica Lewinsky.) That kind of rhetoric from Rand Paul probably undercuts his appeal with some of the younger voters who might be inclined to support him for his non-interventionism and great skepticism of government programs. I suspect most people don't want to revisit Mr. Clinton's dalliances. The people for whom that remains a great moral issue are already Republican partisans; this will not win over moderate swing voters.



A Bluegrass Poll from the Commonwealth of Kentucky has G.O.P. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell trailing his Democratic opponent, Alison Lundergan Grimes, by 4 points. The survey also suggests even President Obama is slightly more popular than McConnell: The President's approval rating registered 34% in Kentucky vs. 32% for McConnell.

Several observations: Grimes, the current Kentucky Secretary of State, remains largely a tabula rasa, undefined. No doubt once the McConnell machine identifies her vulnerabilities and intensifies the attacks, Grimes' positive numbers could sink. That said, McConnell first must defeat a Tea Party opponent. McConnell seemingly has moved further to the right for that very reason. (That's undoubtedly why McConnell seemed even tougher & uncompromising on immigration reform than House Speaker Boehner for a time.) It's perhaps possible - even in Bluegrass Country - that McConnell's lurch to the right has come off as both opportunistic and inauthentic, and further alienated whatever middle-of-the-road voters Kentucky has, sending them to Grimes. Since how you look on TV can affect political perceptions - rightly or wrongly - I've always thought McConnell comes off looking as pastey and plastic on TV, and his advancing age has done him no favors.

That said, just as some polls before the last Presidential election underestimated the surge of new young voters recruited on social media, etc.; it's quite possible polls anticipating the 2014 mid-term election underestimate the "reliable", older, conservative voters who faithfully go to the polls for every election, rain or shine. Still, we see McConnell is not wildly popular in his home state.



As CVS - and perhaps some other pharmaceutical chains - prepare to ditch sales of cigarettes and other tobacco products, the one-and-a-half-Billion-dollar, E-cigarette industry braces for F.D.A. regulation.



Victoria Nuland, U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for European Affairs, inadvertently triggered a diplomatic chasm when she ripped the European Union during a private telephone conversation with the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt: "F*** the E.U." Nuland unleashed that expletive in a dicussion about the Ukrainian crisis. She was suggesting it would be best for a U.N. diplomat to broker a deal between the government & opposition in Kiev. An anonymous user (Russian?) intercepted that telephone conversation and uploaded it into YouTube.




One of the men arrested in connection with actor Philip Seymour Hoffman's death - from an apparent drug overdose - was a saxophonist session musician who played for Mick Jagger, David Bowie, and Amy Winehouse in the past.



Care to comment on Jay Leno's exit from late-night television? I really have nothing to say since I never watch late night television... as I've spent most of my working life getting up at 3 or 4 in the A.M. The few times I did see Leno... never thought he was very compelling.

Posted at 8:38am on February 7, 2014 by Allan Loudell

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Comments on this post:

billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 9:33am
Well in PA and NJ, most people don't clear snow from the roofs of cars and trucks either. One of several laws cops ignore. All those people playing with a mobile device. All those people who don't turn their headlights on when they use their windshield wipers. And with stoplights out, all those people who ignore the rule that a dark stoplight should be treated as a four-way stop and instead, just charge right through.

Big cars = bigger profits for car companies. That's why they've always pushed them and tried to discourage small cars. One stupid rule: A car in a parking lot backing out of a space has to yield to a car in the lane. But if you are parked in a car next to an SUV (on one side or both) you can't see anybody coming until you are most of the way out. A lot of idiots just charge through parking lot lanes and if they hit you, the law says it's your fault.

SUVs get lousy gas mileage, so at least those people are paying gas tax to keep up the roads (making up for all the electric and hybrid owners).

Those people with snow on their roofs mostly leave their vehicles on the street during a snow storm, blocking snow plows from completely clearing streets. Local governments should require all cars off the street when the weather bureau is predicting two or more inches of snow accumulation. No exceptions.

Speaking of the ice storm and all the people without power, the media seemed to think the problem is people without lights. No, dummies, the problem is people without heat when it's below freezing inside and outside the home. I heard one idiot telling people not to open the fridge to keep food cold inside. Keeping food cold was not a problem. How clueless can these people be? What I don't understand is if I have gas (or oil) heat, how come my house is freezing when the electricity goes out? Seems like I'd be in the dark but I'd be warm.

And the media keep acting like the various utilities are so "heroic" in responding to this "emergency." How come none of these people are asking the tough questions? Why is the electrical system so vulnerable to weather? What did they do (if anything) to prevent this? Mostly the problem was downed trees bringing down electric wires? Were these "heroic" crews out last summer looking for overgrown trees and trimming them? (And why not?) Seems like the utilities decided it's cheaper to have a massive breakdown every year or so than to prevent them. And the media really like breakdowns. It gets everybody's attention and they profit from all the storm coverage sponsors. Besides utilities buy ads, so they get kid-glove treatment. And newsies are afraid if they ask "impertinent" questions, they'd loose "access" (all those outage stats they keep repeating, which are totally useless to those affected).

EarlGrey
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 10:05am
Mr. Loudell: And once again our views differ.
Leno's exit was a class act...going out just like Captain Von Trapp (Sound of Music).

So long Farewell
Aufwiedersehn
Goodbye...goodbye...goodbye.

I wonder how well Jimmy will fill the void left by Leno...I really liked Conan but have never been a really big fan of Jimmy's show.

Mike from Delaware
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 1:26pm
Billsmith: I may not be reading what you asked correctly, so if I must understood your question I applogize, but to answer what I believe your question was you asked:

"What I don't understand is if I have gas (or oil) heat, how come my house is freezing when the electricity goes out? Seems like I'd be in the dark, but I'd be warm."

Answer is the air that circulates the heated air in the plenum of your heater through out your home's air ducts, be it oil or gas, is an electric "squirel cage" fan. So when the electric goes out, the system is set up to not run, because if the air isn't moved with colder air replacing the heated air, the furnace would overheat; it's designed to shut down if the plenum goes above a certain temp. Someone who actually fixes heaters for a living could offer a better explanation, but that is a very basic answer to how I interpreted your question.


billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 2:01pm
MFD: Yes, you did understand. That explains it. Thanks.

Earl: Leno's entrance was no class act. Leno is a pig. He is a back-stabbing, office politician from hell. He stole the Tonight from Letterman. Talk about surveillance. Leno got the Tonight Show by listening in on a management conference call. Here is the official ranking of Tonight Show hosts:
Johnny Carson 90
Jack Parr 85
Steve Allen 80
Conan O'Brien 75
Jay Leno 30

Here are the rankings of other selected late night hosts:
David Letterman 85
Dick Cavett 80
Les Crane 80
Arsenio Hall 75
Merv Griffin 70
David Frost 70
Joan Rivers 60
Joey Bishop 50
Pat Sajak 40
Chevy Chase 33 1/3
Bill Dana 30

Now with time on his hands, wouldn't it be nice if Leno drove one of his motorcycles off a cliff, god willing.




billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 2:55pm
Both political correctness and stupidity run amok:
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Outrage as private high school puts fried chicken, corn bread and WATERMELON on black history month lunch menu

* Bay Area all-girl Christian school Carondelet High apologized for what they reportedly thought would be a way to honor black history

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2553472/Outrage-private-high-school-puts-fried-chicken-corn-bread-WATERMELON-black-history-month-lunch-menu.html#ixzz2sfRkNEBA
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I'm White. My mother was VERY white. And we had fried chicken (she made great fried chicken), corn bread (she called it "Johnny cake") and watermelon regularly when I was a kid (usually not all three at the same meal). The colonel was White, so how did fried chicken become a Black thing? Even so, to put these items on a "Black History Month" menu shows somebody is tone deaf.

Remember when TV stations spent February doing "Black History minutes?" They were 60 second profiles of supposedly Black figures of historic importance. They started off OK with George Washington Carver (the inventor of peanut butter, since banned from school lunchrooms). But then they would do people like the first Black postmaster in Chattanooga. These were so inconsequential as to be demeaning. Again, a tone deaf attempt to look good.

billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 3:01pm
It was even harder for a Camel to pass through the eye of a needle in Moses' time.
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Do camels prove that the Bible is inaccurate? Archaeologists reveal mammals were domesticated in 900 BC - centuries after Biblical characters rode them

* Archaeologists from the University of Tel Aviv, Israel, found that camels were not domesticated in Israel until the 9th century BC
* They claim this shows that Biblical text was compiled long after the events described in it, and challenges the Bible as a historical document
* Researchers analyzed the oldest-known domesticated camel bones, found in the Aravah Valley in the southern Levant, to inform their research

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2551511/Do-camels-prove-Bible-INACCURATE-Archaeologists-reveal-mammals-domesticated-900BC-centuries-Biblical-characters-rode-them.html#ixzz2sfU3NXVl
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I guess the Israelites domesticated Camels because they decided they'd rather ride than walk a mile.


billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 3:09pm
The more things change the more they stay the same. Almost half a century ago and weeks before dying of lung cancer, actor William Talman (D.A. Hamilton Burger on Perry Mason) filmed a TV spot urging smokers to quit before it was too late.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjRkpge-jk

Now, Mister Spock is doing the same.
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Leonard Nimoy Reveals Lung Disease Diagnosis, Urges Fans To Quit Smoking

"Star Trek" star Leonard Nimoy, 82, revealed he is suffering from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) after photos of him sitting in a wheelchair with an oxygen mask hit the web.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/06/leonard-nimoy-lung-disease-smoking_n_4741076.html

Allan Loudell
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 6:39pm
Breaking news Friday afternoon:

Dover, Del. (AP) - Attorney-General Beau Biden's office has withdrawn a subpoena seeking to force Facebook to reveal the identity of the owner of a page that features postings highly critical of Wilmington government officials.

The subpoena was issued December 11 seeking the name of the account holder for the "Peaceful Rioters of Wilmington" Facebook page. Biden's office said last week that the subpoena involved an ongoing criminal investigation, but it refused to provide details.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed a motion to quash the subpoena, saying that revealing the identity of the Facebook account holder would violate the person's constitutional rights, including the right to free speech.

In a response filed Friday, Biden's office said it was withdrawing the subpoena, saying the information originally sought was no longer necessary.

billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 7:12pm
Meanwhile, daddy was at 30th Street promoting Amtrak's new engine (still paying back all those free rides commuting to DC?), then bashed New York's LaGuardia airport and continued dithering about running for president.

mrpizza
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 7:19pm
I think it would be poetic justice if Leno was picked up by CBS.

mrpizza
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 7:53pm
Unemployment: Obama's greatest achievement. This video explains exactly why:

http://www.dickmorris.com/obamas-anti-job-strategy-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/?utm_source=dmreports&utm_medium=dmreports&utm_campaign=dmreports

billsmith
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 8:08pm
Let me get this straight. Greedy corporations screw workers to save a few bucks and make their honchos even richer and Pizza and the tea baggers think this is Obama's fault?

mrpizza
Fri, Feb 7, 2014 8:50pm
Did you watch the video?

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 5:29am
No, Pizza. Dick Morris' name was all I needed to see. Funny, you post here but you must be spending your afternoons with 1210 from Philly. I hear even dyed in the wool Dittoheads complaining about how terrible Morris is (or maybe they're Hannity groupies upset that he bumped their boy to late night).
Curious Morris uses video. I guess literacy is a challenge for tea baggers.

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 7:28am
Jimmy Carter had the cajones to stand up to corporate sports interests and order a boycott of the 1980 Moscow Olympics. But Obama does not. Comcast, McDonald's and the various corporate sponsors have too much money invested and money trumps participant safety, political corruption, unfinished facilities, human rights abuses, persecution of political protesters, persecution of gays and sending a company into the streets of Sochi to shoot stray dogs.
Obama is a Daley Machine ho.
Russia is a corrupt and brutal culture. Always has been and always will be. Tsars. Commies. Putin. Names change but the society does not.
To compare Obama to Jimmy Carter is an insult to Jimmy Carter. Both may be ineffective in the job but Jimmy Carter had backbone, principles and integrity.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 8:19am
By the time Obama finishes his destruction, you'll be wishing you were living in Russia.

Again, don't say ole' Mr. Pizza didn't warn ya.

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 8:44am
Pizza, think or believe whatever you want. Hate whoever you want for whatever reasons you want. But you want to force everybody else to go along with you. That makes you dangerous. That makes you the tyrant.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 10:04am
Once again, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another music break! Today, we're dedicating this one to the great one and only BILL SMITH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsW28Gz27ZE

kavips
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 12:45pm
That was a well constructed piece of music... Thanks for finding it...

kavips
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 12:57pm
Mr. Pizza. The Belarus flag makes me think of Cherry Lime-aid.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 1:28pm
Kavips: Glad I could be of service. Brasil '66 was one of the class musical acts of the 1960's. I have just about all the original-issue LP's as well as a couple of compilation CD's.
In case you'd like to check out their stuff, here's an Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/179-0551316-5180605?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=brasil%2066&sprefix=brasil+66%2Caps&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Abrasil%2066

As for the cherry lime-aid, you're right. They really like pink over there.

billsmith
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 5:38pm
Innocent until proven guilty? Not in FemiNazi Land! The FEMS seem to think that any charge a woman makes against a man is automatic proof of guilt and automatic conviction. If a woman says she was raped, lock up the guy and throw away the key (or better yet, castrate him). Same if a kid says she was molested.

And it is at work again. Various FemiNazi writers and bloggers are calling for Woody Allen's scalp. His estranged adopted daughter, Dylan Farrow, is resurrecting an old claim that he molested her in the attic when she was seven.

When this was originally reported at the time, the Connecticut police investigated and found Dylan's adoptive mother, Mia Farrow, who was going through an intensely bitter break-up with Woody, had coached her daughter to say she was abused. This is the same Mia who had earlier cheated on Woody with her ex-husband Frank Sinatra and conceived a son, Ronan Farrow, passed off as Woody's son (but who grew up looking a lot like Frank). Apparently Mia was enraged that Woody had taken up with her adopted daughter (with Andre Previn), which seems a bit hypocritical given Mia's relationship with OLD Blue Eyes.

Hell hath no fury and all that. What the FemiNazis seem unable to realize is that when a woman makes false accusations (especially a famous woman) to further some other agenda, it makes it harder to prosecute and punish real cases of child abuse or rape. And it can destroy the life of an innocent guy whose only sin is to incur the wrath of a woman he was involved with (we all know how easily female wrath can happen). It also punishes an innocent child who now lives her life apparently believing she is a victim of childhood sexual abuse, and lives with all the emotional trauma that goes with that.

mrpizza
Sat, Feb 8, 2014 6:00pm
Yep. You gotta be real careful, especially these days, to not get into a compromised situation with a woman. And if you have an appreciable amount of money, you gotta be even more careful.

mrpizza
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 4:05am
Once again, I must give Russia a lot of credit for allowing good to triumph over evil, despite what Bill or in fact anybody else (even Mike or Earl) may think. Notice the Christians here are not "forcing" anything on anybody, but sure looks like the LGBT's are:


http://www.christianpost.com/news/alaskan-evangelicals-converge-on-sochi-to-spread-gospel-during-winter-olympics-114217/

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-arrests-4-gay-rights-activists-on-opening-day-2014-sochi-winter-olympics-opening-ceremony/

kavips
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 4:40am
Actually, I getting feelers in the foreign press that the negative coverage is all coming from the US. Basically at Sochi, there is good and bad. And the American press is focusing only on the bad...

Imagine if we, the US built a complex in Philadelphia, that was beautiful, and the Chinese came over, ignored it, and started reporting on the conditions of Camden...

It's a valid point. It is getting to the point where the US press is not only out of touch, but arrogantly so...

Was anyone else impressed when the athletes came out of the floor?

And mock outrage over arresting gay protesters? If gays over here invaded a church, would we send in police to remove them? Heck yes!

We do not have a free press if you can spell their name in three letters. Like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS..... only if they have 4 letters, like WDEL can they be trusted..... It is very sad our national press is lying to its own people....

kavips
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 4:44am
Pizza. Would it be safe to say that Russia's people are real religious, and that is the underlying cause behind their anti-gay stance? I know religion certainly played that role here. With all the heat on Putin, I know of no American President who would go against what was willed by all the churches here, so making Putin into a monster, is a big exaggeration.

billsmith
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 9:13am
A red letter day in history. Politically correct Kavips has changed sides and gone over to the authoritarian tea baggers.
Let's ignore how much of the construction in Sochi has not been finished and the level of corruption that would make Mayor Daley, Boss Tweed and Boss Pendergast blanch.
Let's ignore the guys Putin hired to go around shooting stray dogs.
Let's ignore the round-up an arrest of environmental activists, political protesters and gay rights protesters and other groups to which the PC'ers have always been sympathetic (until now).
Let's ignore the plight of the disadvantaged in Russia (or in Camden) because it doesn't fit the pretty story.
Let's not talk about all the money wasted - yes, wasted - on Olympic facilities which will not provide future benefit to the people who actually live there anywhere close to what they cost - just as these facilities have been a waste in all the other Olympic venues.
Let's not talk about the stupid, venial, hypocritical and corrupt actions of the IOC over more than a century.
No, let's just have pretty pictures of goody-two-shoes on ice twirling around in those short, short skirts. And let's make sure only ex-jocks provide only flattering commentary.
And let's just have the media focus only on "good news," puff pieces handed to them by those with something to promote. Let's have a world where reading press releases passes as reporting and nobody asks tough questions for fear of losing "access." Oh, wait! We already have that - especially those with four letters.
Kavips, you are a hypocrite. You have sold out your former PC principles. If you get what you called for and then Pizza can police everybody's sex life, we won't need Jesus to come establish his Puritan "eutopia."

mrpizza
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 9:50am
Kavips: You're making perfect sense here and I had never thought of the religious component of the Russian people vs. the one here. Over the past 40 years, Christianity in America has become less relevant for a couple of reasons: one being they kicked Jesus out of school (Murray v. Curlett) but also just plain human nature in that we've been so prosperous the need for God has been forgotten by many.

In Russia and in fact all of Eastern Europe, more people are hanging on to God because He's about all they have. Relatively less material wealth in that part of the world.

As for gays invading churches here, they already have. They've just done it through infiltration. The Presbyterian Church ordaining gay ministers is just one example of that.

And yes, the American press is notoriously negative.

BRAVO Kavips! (Sorry Bill)

billsmith
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 9:54am
Pizza: You are Russian. Czarist Russia sounds like your Christian "eutopia." Russia is a psychotic, demented culture. And you want to be import it here and expect everybody to appreciate it. No way.

kavips
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:20am
Lol. Bill. No. Perhaps the problem was in you. The PC category never fit, and finally the tape with which you tried to stick it came undone. Perhaps you were trying to put a treasure into a box that had the wrong shape. From here, it looks like you have a overt Linnaeus complex and simply made a error of classification...

kavips
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:34am
Bill made some points, which are propagated by the American media, so let me counter with what the foreigners are countering those arguments..

Unfinished housing.

The amount of construction undertaken in Sochi is literally mind blowing. (take your own tour on Google maps, looks like updated last spring)... could any other nation including the US have pulled it off? Probably not. Obviously one had to prioritize. Work from the center out. The complex and stadium are an architectural marvel. The opening ceremonies certainly (including advances in technology) was far superior to the last American opening, in Salt Lake City, courtesy of Mitt Romney...

The accommodations for the true guests are not being negatively twittered. It appears that the American press were judged to be secondary citizens, a classification that seems to be warranted by their actions, and were allocated steerage accommodations, something I certainly could see the US doing to RT if the roles were reversed.... We would certainly give our guys the prime rooms, and let Pepe Escobar find accommodations in whatever was left...

Dogs.

Do we shoot coyotes and wolfs out west? End of argument.

Arrest of activists....

Occupy Wall Street seems to ring a bell. How did America treat those demonstrators? We said they were ugly and probably treated them with more violence than those in Russia are now experiencing... Russia was up to 60 arrests as of last night. How many arrests came out of Occupy?


mrpizza
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:35am
Bill: You are partially correct. I do consider myself part Russian in that God on several occasions sent me over to that part of the world to bring some sunshine into their otherwise dreary lives. I hope to go back in the near future.

mrpizza
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 11:40am
Kavips: Your story of construction in Russia reminds me of another observation I made during my times in Belarus. People over their build their own houses and live in them while they're building them, because there is practically no consumer credit (mortgages) available so they have to do it as they get the money. The good news is that once they finish it, it's paid for.

This kind of construction also happens in Africa, and I'm sure also in other non-western nations.

mrpizza
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 12:16pm
In addition, Bill, I don't think America needs my help to import any of Russia's culture here. Obamacare is Soviet-style communism on steroids.

Conversely, I have heard some Russians complain that America wants to impose western materialism on them, but they've done a pretty good job of imposing it on themselves with no help from us.

billsmith
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 12:26pm
Sorry, Kavips. I heard about it on the CBC, not the corporate U.S. media.
Funny how you dismiss the small amount of critical content in the U.S. media since it's mostly promotion from organizations standing to profit from the Olympics.
Sounds like you are reverting to old left inclinations to give Ruskies a free pass. Hitler kills 12,000,000. That's horrible - especially the the 6,000,000 Jews (the rest we don't hear much about). Stalin kills 24,000,000. Well, you all don't want to talk about that. Understandable. Growing pains. Excuses, excuses.
Big construction job? Sure. It's not like they didn't have advanced notice.

Carter stood up to the Russians and pulled out of the Moscow Olympics. The greatest president in our lifetimes caved in and sold out.

And Pizza likes Putin and calls Obama a tyrant. Now that's through the looking glass.

kavips
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 3:15pm
Bill.. Very casual correlations. Pointing out the faults of the American press does in no way promote the killing of 24 million Russians.... I think it was less than that, but that depends on who is doing the counting... (17 million was what I heard; wonder if they are throwing in the war dead in your source's total?) No pass for Putin; just calling out that only the US press is the one making all the anti-Putin fuss... I'm sure if we had the winter Olympics on Kilmajaro (lol) a "certain segment" of our population would complain about "that" too... (Hey, Look. I found a birth certificate in that snowbank there.)...

Did not understand who the organizations profiting from the Olympics you were referencing. If it is NBC, then they obviously are doing political pandering. We've covered that topie already.

Before you dismiss the amount of construction, take an afternoon stroll through Sochi... (Sorry no one went up in the mountains with the Google-mobile.) Only China has ever attempted to build on that scale. Don't even think America could accomplish it these days, we have starved our construction trades down to skeletons.

Pizza. Thank you for that bit of knowledge regarding credit and having one's house built up around them....

Carter stood up to Russia because they brutally attacked a country unannounced as Russians were known to do. Invaded it to rule it.. Just like we did with Iraq... We want to develop your oil, so we are taking over. So are you saying we should abandon this Winter Olympic opportunity because they have Conservative beliefs? Half our own nation is has conservative beliefs. That would be the height of folly to do something so silly. There is no comparison between same sex marriage and fire-bombing the population of a neighboring country with no provocation....

Your equivocations make no sense.

kavips
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 3:19pm
Likewise, Obamacare and Soviet styled hospitalization plans, are as far apart as are the Milky Way and the Lesser Magellanic Clouds...

In Delaware there are two commercial health plans on the market place. Coventry and Highmark. Both are competing for customers. The Soviets could only wish for such a luxury. The only limitation Obamacare places on commercial endeavor, is that the charges now have to make sense before you get charged. Before, they could charge you $1000 per Q-tip.

Good sense; not Soviet medicine. A little overstatement on your part too...

mrpizza
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 3:50pm
You all are going to gloat over this article, but after reading it myself, I'm starting to think the American church may need to seek political asylum in Russia:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-government-to-expand-recognition-of-same-sex-marriages/

billsmith
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 4:05pm
Kavips: I'm not surprised what I say does not make sense to you. You and Pizza are both true believers, two sides of the same coin. Political correctness and tea party. Both self-righteous. Both about making yourselves right and others wrong. Like love and hate, you are twins - not opposites. Mirror images of each other. And one of many things you both share is double standards. And, of course, hypocrisy. All this explains why you both are so easily led by any politician who speaks well and tells you what you want to hear. And why Obama so easily sold out progressives, just like Ronnie sold out the wing-nuts.
I can see you are easily confused when things don't fit your mind set. Stalin's 24 million victims referenced lefties like you ignoring his atrocities while getting all worked up over Adolph's far less numerous atrocities. Of course, Jews who dominate left-wing circles and the media seem to think Jewish lives should count for more than other lives, so maybe that throws off the math.

billsmith
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 5:19pm
Something else the corporate and Zionist media do not tell you about: BDS

"Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) is a global campaign which uses economic and political pressure on Israel to comply with the stated goals of the movement: The end of Israeli occupation and colonization of Arab land, full equality for Arab-Palestinian citizens of Israel, and respect for the right of return of Palestinian refugees... BDS supporters argue that both the movement (and criticism of the movement) are similar to the earlier boycotts of South Africa...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boycott,_Divestment_and_Sanctions

When you think about it, South Africa and Israel have so much in common. Which is why they don't want you to think about it.

mrpizza
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 7:59pm
Bill: Actually, we have BDS at the U.S. Post Office. It stands for Bio-Detection System. The reason I support it is because it may prevent another anthrax attack.

kavips
Sun, Feb 9, 2014 9:27pm
Now Billsmith. You have gone off the deep end, I'm afraid... Your caricatures simply don't fit. In fact, reality of the situation is the opposite of what you pretend....

Go to sleep, come back when you are better rested.

billsmith
Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:47am
Kavips: Deep end? In PC land, that's anything that doesn't fit PC orthodox doctrine. You people's use of the word "correct" pretty much says it. Early on political correctness identified itself with designated victim-entitlement groups, whether those groups were really disadvantaged and persecuted or not. At the top of the list were feminazis and Zionists. Not on the list were Palestinians. Who knows why you people didn't think Palestinians were worth your concern. Maybe because PC group-think, Kumbaya-singing sessions were so dominated by Zionists, waving the Holocaust card anytime anybody said anything they don't like. Even today, Zionist groups try to bar those who don't agree with their stands from 100 percent from speaking on university campuses (once again, political correctness stands for diversity in everything but thought). It's amazing how PCers and teabaggers/nofundamentalists are like each other.

kavips
Mon, Feb 10, 2014 3:46pm
Lol. The word correct means it corresponds with reality. As in "he walked down the street" is correct, only if the subject of whom you are speaking, actually did walk down the street. There is no room for error. Either he did, or didn't, and that determines if one is correct or is not.

Therefore, above, when you say correct and enclose quotation marks around it, you have already erred. It shows you feel that correct is interpretative. As if.. If Billsmith thinks that he walked down the street, but he really rode a bicycle, he is still correct when he insists that he walked down the street because he can't remember parking the bicycle when he got done. That controversy inside Billsmith's head finally is settled when the street cams show him sure enough, riding a bicycle down the street...

Correct is not interpretative. It is real, and event involving time and space.. Therefore were I to say something you said was not correct, I solidly would mean that everything you said was not real. Did not really happen.

No amount of interpretation determines what is real or isn't, unless one agrees to foolishly accept what one thinks is reality as being it, even if what one thinks is wrong....

But I don't and have never. Sometimes one never knows, or will ever know, what is real. Then one must make choices based on the evidence at hand. What does it show?

If you and I disagree, it is not because I am correct and you are not. It is because I have based my best guess on evidence, and you have not....

billsmith
Mon, Feb 10, 2014 5:04pm
Kavips: Invest in a dictionary. And keep in mind we are talking about "correct" in the context of "politically correct," not in the context of math or science.

mrpizza
Mon, Feb 10, 2014 7:25pm
South Africa is another place I may consider retiring to.

kavips
Mon, Feb 10, 2014 9:37pm
There you go again... the dictionary lists my version of correct. But thanks for explaining you were using the politically correct version of ..correct. so at least what you were saying was somewhat on topic. However, all can look up at your very own comment made 2/9 9:12 and see that your classification of "correct" simply does not apply here. i've kept quite out of curiosity to see where it would go, but I don't think it has ever applied....


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